Notes from Forum on Justice in Health Care Held in Rochester on November 15, 2009
Panel: Jeff Cohen, Moderator; Congressman Eric Massa; Donna Smith of California Nurses Association; Political Strategist Steve Cobble; PNHP Member and working Physician Emily Queenan, Held in Dryden Theater of the George Eastman House Museum
A crowd of perhaps 200-250 people turned out. I did not get a head county. It was a very well organized event by the Genesee Valley Progressive Democrats, with a good supplemental packet ready for all attending. Jeff Cohen started off by reminding everyone that the recent House Health Care bill was not only written for the private health insurance industry, but was actually written by them. He pointed out that Max Baucus’ Chief Counsel for health care legislation is former Well Point V.P. of Public Policy Liz Fowler. He pointed out that Democrat Senator Evan Bayh’s wife sits on the Well Point Board. Given this kind of influence on our legislative process, Cohen wondered if “Democracy was still functional.” In regard to the House Health Care Bill he said it “started going wrong when liberal net roots groups started with a robust public option as their chief demand” instead of single payer. He then introduced New York 29th Congressional District Representative Eric Massa, stating that Massa was the most courageous freshman Congressman since 1846, when Illinois Freshman Congressman Abraham Lincoln opposed the Mexican War. After a week of being unfairly chastised by self described Progressive Democrat Party hacks, Congressman Massa was greeted with the standing ovation he deserves.
Massa stated that he spent 14 hours on the House floor on November 7, watching as the drive grew to “pass anything.” He said he knew back when Obama took single payer off from the table, the fight was going to be to get a bill that would do the most good for the most people. He said: “This bill does tremendous good for a few health insurance industry CEOs.” He stated that the bill: “Intensifies what is wrong with the health care system—it strengthens the role of private insurance and heightens the role of employers in providing health care.” He noted that the bill contains “astronomical” cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, in order to put funds into the private insurers. He also noted that we are about to spend twice as much money in Afganistan in the next year as we are debating spending on health care over the next ten (for those who do not know, Massa, a retired Naval Commander, has also taken a lead role in opposing “Obama’s war” in the Congress).
Following Massa, Donna Smith of the California Nurses Association spoke. Fans of Michael Moore might remember her from Sicko. She is one of the most articulate bloggers on the web on behalf of single payer. She stated that she is still optimistic about the movement, based on her activism on the ground. She said she has been to 43 states now, and that “people get it.” She said we just have to keep building the pressure on the Congress to force them to follow along. She stated that this bill is terrible—said it was like “giving a cancer victim an aspirin.” She said it won’t guarantee people get the care they need and won’t guarantee that people don’t end up bankrupt from medical bills, so it is a failure. She made some very smart observations about how disingenuous so much of the debate is, how they tell you “You’ll be able to keep what you have” but that “14,000 Americans a day lose their jobs, and they can’t keep what they’ve got.” She pointed out that almost no American workers actually have any meaningful say over “what they’ve got” for health care. Their employers negotiate the policies, their health insurance companies negotiate rates and establish which doctors “are in the network.” She pointed out that keeping health care tied to employment by definition hurts women most, because as a group women are statistically employed at lower wages, at lower hours. She pointed out that a woman whose husband dies doesn’t get to “keep what she has.” She also spoke about the age-rated provisions in the house bill, which will allow insurance companies to charge up to 5 times as much based on age—totally destroying the concept of “affordability.” She concluded her introductory remarks by stating that activists need to support Bernie Sander’s S703 bill, the Senate version of single payer, and must keep educating: “We’re not done.”
Next up was political strategist Steve Cobble. He frankly gave the Democrats credit for being stupid where I would call them corrupt. He pointed out that voters are not “conservative” on heath care—that it is the beltway pundits and media types who are conservative on health care. He said that the Democrats should have made the Republicans vote against “Medicare for All” not a confusing “public option” contained in a 1900 page bill. He said “people know what Medicare is and they like it.”
Following Cobble was PNHP member Emily Queenan. She talked anecdotally about how private insurance undermines the entire system. She said that “everyday the heath insurance industry invades the space where I am trying to heal my patients.” She put a lot of emphasis on the fact that making people buy insurance won’t in any meaningful way guarantee them care, based on her experience working with underinsured patients—most people will be underinsured with the plans that they will be forced to buy.
The rest of the time was spent on audience questions. The first question was the obligatory “But don’t we have to start somewhere?” Massa stated that he would be happy to support a health care bill that did not go all the way towards establishing single payer, but only if it were a “step in the right direction” that would actually improve the health care situation for working and middle class Americans. He pointed out that this bill will cut 500 Billion from Medicare, which will force people in the future to buy supplemental plans from private insurers, when more and more doctors start refusing to take Medicare because of the lowered reimbursement rates—one more way in which the bill will benefit the insurance industry while hurting regular people. Donna Smith pointed out that while the bill expands eligibility for Medicaid, it cuts Medicaid funding, which will end up being a huge burden on already strapped counties and states. She also observed that by forcing so many more people to become customers of the health insurance industry, and by giving them so much more money from citizens and tax payers, we are ultimately strengthening the people who are causing all the problems. Cobble repeated Rahm Emanuels cynical comment that “the only non-negotiable part of the bill is whether it passes” as a sign of how little some in the Democrat party actually care about passing reform that will actually help people.
In response to another question on what the Medicaid/Medicare cuts will look like, Massa repeated a story about how Obama came to see him shortly after he had become a Congressman and told him “You will not raise taxes on people earning less than $250,000 a year!” But this bill will very likely force property taxes up on Americans across the country, regardless of their income, due to the expanded eligibility for Medicaid and corresponding cut in funding.
Donna Smith raised the issue of the much vaunted “pre-existing condition reform.” She pointed out what many have been saying—that forcing people to buy private insurance and forcing private insurers to sell it to people with pre-existing conditions is really a meaningless reform because the insurance industries will still be able to deny treatments.
Somebody wanted to know why the bill will take 4-5 years to phase in. Massa stated that “no living person can intelligently answer that question.” Somebody wanted to know why the AARP would support a bill that cuts funding for Medicare. Smith pointed out that the AARP has a strong relationship with United Healthcare and that they sell seniors supplemental insurance policies—so they will make a lot of money off from the Medicare cuts.
There was a question about Torte Reform. Massa pointed out that states with medical malpractice caps have seen no reduction in medical malpractice premiums. He stated that malpractice lawsuits mostly drive up rates due to the amount of defensive medicine they cause—excessive tests that probably might not be needed. He advocated for national standards of care, which would establish a framework to measure malpractice against. Dr. Queenan stated that financing for doctors must be altered so that doctors can spend enough time with patients so that they can actually determine what might be going on without having to rely on a battery of extensive tests.
The panel concluded with a discussion of what activists can do in the weeks ahead. Cobble said that we need to be calling the Senate to make sure Bernie Sanders can get his single payer for the states amendment into the Senate bill. He said to defend Massa and Kucinich on the blogs against the so-called progressives who think “anything is better than nothing.” He said in New York we need to seriously talk about passing it on the state level and inject it into the Governor’s race. Smith said to contact Schumer and Gillibrand and demand they support the Sanders amendment. She said get on the blogs and keep talking up single payer in local communities. She said we need to make single payer a “centrist issue.”
Massa strongly urged people to write letters for single payer to newspapers throughout the state and in his district (newslink.org will give you the homepage for most newspapers in New York State, and the rest of the country, too). He said the letters to the editors really have a strong impact on shaping public opinion. He really emphasized the fact that so-called progressives really haven’t been as vocal and public in supporting single-payer as the right-wing has been in shouting down “socialism.”
Massa finished his remarks with a very chilling story about a vocal right-winger in his district, who routinely calls his office and attacks him and his staff. He said the man called after the health care vote to congratulate him on being independent in his vote on the bill. He then started to tell the staffer in Massa’s office about how his daughter had recently been diagnosed with cancer, and does not have any insurance. “But I still don’t want Massa to vote for socialized medicine,” he said. The staffer asked “You mean that even though your daughter is sick and shut out of the system, you don’t want the system reformed?” The man replied that he would rather have his daughter “die an American than live as a socialist.”